Thats bad math and bad leadership. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. 84283412342. This is how capitalism works. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? And now a sell out. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. All things considered, a Henry Big Boy in .44mag is more likely to see the inside of my safe than a M1A1. If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. This story is libel. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. Well do our part in other states to support you. No more. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! thats what matter and they put that last. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. Sorry for the spelling error. This says a lot about the people running the company. Your Price: $744.13. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. Theyre both stuck now. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. Going the other direction nobody would move. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. No offense intended. That alone is enough to put them out of business. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Rock River LAR-8 .308. I dont think the current owner is going to make that same mistake although I wish they would just stop putting in that stupid lock already. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. I hear you on that Ruger. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. Or in the General Assembly. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. I got a 12 2a armament Mlok handguard from them for $148.97 and free shipping in September. Are they doing town halls? had I known earlier, I might have bought a few more colt revolvers..god I wish Id known. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. Reese is a business guy, not a gun guy, as this video demonstrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkfjwStDUUQ, At 1:02 hes pointing the XD at the host (which Leathem mentions, ?). Make it a campaign issue NOW. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. Damage done. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. However, the R-51 is a bear to clean and still hasnt proven itself totally for CC, coming off its well documented ill fated Gen 1 launch and Remingtons continued reliability issues. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? I dont think youre using that word right. Search Ruger anti gun. When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. Shame! Very close to where I grew up. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Magpul moved to WY. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Plenty of folks out there shooting LWRC, ArmaLite, DPMS who would argue theirs are reliable, accurate, & mo betta too. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. Companies move all the time. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. I bought my first Rock If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. In your opinion. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. thats the one ive just stopped considering. Welp. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. That will never happen now. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Low character move. Get a Dan Wesson instead. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. My time stinks apparently. And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). Well, said. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Huh? Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. County fairs? Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Theyd screw over their grandmother for a dime. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. Taurus? Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. Make this a massive intractable mess. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. If you know youre going to lose 50% off sticker driving something new off the lot, odds are you keep looking. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. Other places have them for $200.00. Its their prerogative. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. No further recommendation about the products will be made. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. Thanks for Nothing SA. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. Please, spend your money where you want. That said, this just breaks my heart to see this moron Reese damage the brand. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Especially ones outside Chiraq. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. Up yours Springfield! Dont need it, but I kinda like it. 3/18/2013. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. Screw CTD. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. I live in Illinois. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Glad I happened upon this article. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. Henry? If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Nothing unethical about this practice. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions.. Divide & conquer. I think probably not. Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Which would help with elimination if in the future. If you do a little digging, you will find they were importing 1911s from Brazil in the early days too. He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). Two? He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! Ive never had better customer service with any other business. Now I wish I had not. Shocking I know. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Neither excuse is a proper justification. They also make an Original Henry Rifle. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. We feel that IFMAs Done. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. PERIOD. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. Have you not been following this story? This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. Its called doing business. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. 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