And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. The fact that she had 3 pregnancies when she'd told everyone her Lupus doctor said she'd never have children. And charged all the furnishings on credit. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. Just stunning. He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. Oh I hear you R26. He is a greedy as fuck sociopath. Shan'ann's former boss and lover, Hisham. I think if Shannan had lived she would have continued with her hypochondria, her over-spending, her delusional thinking, and would have made her children neurotic messes. NEVER. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. She seems like an attention whore. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. "Virtually impossible to engage (her) in conversation." I'm a Frau who loves THRIVE! Financially she had left him no way out. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. She was desperate when she realized he was done. She did not "purchase" any house. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. She was a compelling personality. Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. I had no idea it was that much! In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Even after she moved to CO and was a married mother. The family of a pregnant Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband paid tribute to her and said she was 'born to be a mother' at her joint funeral with her two daughters and unborn son. And Im pretty sure Colorado wouldve ruled that Shanann couldnt use her kids as props in any more public Thrive videos. That said, my pity and heartbreak goes out to those kids and Nico. Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. He was so clinical in throwing away his wife (understandable) but the kids? R181, basically what we already knew. Shanann was so excited to have her first baby girl. And, the deceased woman's mother did, as well? The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. WHAT? her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. On social media, the couple seemed like they had a perfect marriage. They're standing on a porch and look sweet and feminine. But its true. Has there ever been a more inept family killer? He couldve extracted himself from Shanann without too much damage. Why cant people see this? R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? It wouldn't seem with the way she spent money that they would have a large down payment. Selling prescription meds? Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. She would terrify me. How many times did this trashy couple declare bankruptcy? Im new to DL, didnt even know it existed until 2 days ago whilst I was googling all that spoke about Frau Shanann Watts, asides from reddit then this is the best place to talk about her, YouTube is full of irrational crazy people that cut you down if you say anything less than Shanann was a Saint, thankgods I can be real here. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? She wasn't some hermit shut in who posted incessantly on DL. Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? Banks have a duty to keep you from insolvency when you buy a house. This is the business where its rumored Shanann. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. And wondering how she could purchase the house on a retail managers salary. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. Shanann was such a grifter. Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. And she wasnt flipping. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. Like an entire store's worth. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. Look at how Shanann tells Cassie to ask if she can buy a house using her Mother, since Cassie and Josh Rosenberg under went a foreclosure 3 years ago. R136. He was never going to find a normal woman, he was always going to seek out a bossy cunt and then spend the rest of his life being sore at her. She went through three first names. Can a Realtor pull the sale records for the house? Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. I'm not R147 but the first 3 seem to fit R150. I haven't seen a single post on DL or anywhere else demanding that Chris "should go free" (tasteless DL bitcherous joking aside) for any reason whatsoever. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. And no one to root for except those poor kids. All until they were diagnosed w/asthma then Shanann w/ her neck surgery which out of pockets 25,000. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. On November 6, 2018, Watts pleaded guilty to multiple counts of first-degree murder as part of a plea deal when the death penalty (which was later abolished in Colorado in 2020) was removed from sentencing. Hello and thank you for registering. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. But after ringing their doorbell and getting no answer, then seeing Shanann's white Lexus in the garage, Nickole called him. I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. shit, and Chris made, what around 90,000 a year? She has a pretty face. Its endlessly fascinating. R194, the Murder Rap Sesh lady interviewed Candice Cans Nantz, who claims to have dated Chris on and off for two years in NC. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. But pronounce it HayZoos. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. What's kind of interesting is that on the body cam video Chris was saying he was locked out of the bank account (didn't have the password) because he "got into trouble a long time ago" (he was implying financially). Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. Saw a new video today about Shan'annigan's 4,000 sf starter home in NC that she fled from, leaving most everything in there behind. That router article is amazing . LEONARD was unable to get details from her. Considering the p.o.s. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. Her husband clearly wasn't as smart as this guy. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. The video of Chris and family at Myrtle Beach has been now taken down from YouTube, as well as most of the videos put up courtesy of Plunder. John Forbes officiating. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. Ack I live just north of Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts and there are lots of places to hike around. What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. She would have freakouts where hed have to drop everything to console her. Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. what happens to all their debt now? I doubt she sold that much Thrive! Why the haste to get out of there so quickly? Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. Chris kept going on and on about how attracted he was to her, even though the detectives had moved on and started questioning him about Shannan. I sure hope he does. And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. Shanann to Shan'ann. "She had dreams to be fulfilled" and "wanted to be an exceptional wife and mother," the pastor said of Watts, 34. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. R143: She didnt change her name. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? Wife of Christopher Lee (Chris) Watts and Private Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant, and appeared to be happily married, according to Atkinson. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. \ 25 FEB-3 MARCH 2023 More adventures in \ } i " Back for the final series the Star Wars galaxy SRY. Chris watts should never get out of prison. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. that they could have a credit rating for a house like that. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? Said, he refused couples counseling., Shanann was expecting a son they planned to name Niko. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. R23, the medical bills were because she had factitious disorder. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote R146 If the Watts murders hadn't occurred I think as time went on the children would've been increasingly, negatively impacted by Shannan's hypochondria, delusional thinking, over-spending, vindictiveness and general megalomania. How do you think she bought that house on a retail managers salary? However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Ill correct this post if I have to - its a three -way conversation with Shanann, Cassie, and Nickole so its confusing. In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. She wanted a Lexus. r22, I saw some special on tv about the murders, it mentioned medical bills for her. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. Shannon too did a lot for the family. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. Suffering. click ACCEPT. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site lol, Chris Watts is a victim of his own choices, that's about it. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. "The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy.". Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! Thank you for posting it! She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. Like he wanted the toddlers to suffer. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Two years to get the diagnosis she wanted. This is a good thread! If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. Shanann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? She built it. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3UsLEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. Police say that Christopher Watts, 33, was arrested in connection with the murder of his wife, Shanann Watts, 34, and two daughters, Celeste and Bella, ages 3 and 4, according to police . He learned of this case from social media and news. The husband looks hot, she's not, R3, whoever she is. ^ Um, yes she was. "Omg, I was so horrified that my wife killed our kids that I crammed them in an oil tank". According to a Facebook post . Like he obviously must be to kill people. I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! Some features on this site require registration. Think before you speak. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. How did they swing this house?! 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By The two met in 2010 when Chriss Lee Watts was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. And even though I cant stand her, I kind of like how demanding and grifty she was. Dirty South has some shitty Yelp reviews. The coldness is just stunning. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. , updated I looked on Google Maps, and boy were they right!! LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. R28, I think they bought the house before the bankruptcy. If the tables had been turned, you bet it would have been called abuse. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Meanwhile, hes doing the financial math about a divorce. Oh yes. ^ Why? 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